I was wondering if anyone here knows of a forum/bbs where people discuss
SAN's ?. I'm having trouble finding info on this subject, specifically about
EMC hardware.

Thanks.

Clive.

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On 2004-12-14, Fatboy40 <no> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone here knows of a forum/bbs where people discuss
> SAN's ?. I'm having trouble finding info on this subject, specifically abo
ut
> EMC hardware.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Clive.
>
>

I have been considering starting one up actually... something that is
independent, and free... and not run by some big publishing group etc..
something more like arstechnica than searchstorage.com or
byteandswitch.com

Wanna help be a moderator?

dxhATyahooREMOVETHISSTUFFDOTcom

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The only forums about this sort of stuff that I'm aware of are on TekTips.
I've visited it a couple of times and there have been a couple of useful
postings.

Anything I can help you with specifically?. I work with EMC
hardware/software.

Brian.
"Fatboy40" <no one here, sorry> wrote in message
news:41beb4f2$0$51961$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>I was wondering if anyone here knows of a forum/bbs where people discuss
>SAN's ?. I'm having trouble finding info on this subject, specifically
>about EMC hardware.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Clive.
>

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Drink and Oracle, thanks for the offers 

I'm just really researching things at the moment. I'm moving the law firm
that I work at to Exchange 2003 next year from our current e-mail system and
could probably include a SAN for it in the budget.

At the moment I trying to find out as much info as I can as I've never setup
a SAN before, it seems quite straight forward really as long as you buy
hardware that's compatible with one another.

So far it either an EMC or HP SAN however we use Dell servers and it seems
to be impossible to find info on using HP kit with Dell servers. I suppose
it's just a case of buying the right hardware e.g. HP disk array/McData
switches/Qlogic HBA's for example.

I'd like to use EMC hardware as everyone I know who uses it says it's easily
the best however I do have to consider the price (I could save money going
for a SATA SAN but there's no way I'd reccomend that solution to any serious
business).

Clive.

"oracle" <oracle@isomontheweb.com> wrote in message
news:1bNvd.11174$%p1.969149@news20.bellglobal.com...
> The only forums about this sort of stuff that I'm aware of are on TekTips.
> I've visited it a couple of times and there have been a couple of useful
> postings.
>
> Anything I can help you with specifically?. I work with EMC
> hardware/software.
>
> Brian.
> "Fatboy40" <no one here, sorry> wrote in message
> news:41beb4f2$0$51961$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... 
>
>

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You should think about using refurbished equipment for your SAN it will
cut the cost by more than 70 percent, and still comes with all the same
warranties as if it was brand new.  Take a look at www.bltrading.com
and if you see anything or have any questions just send me an email
take care
Joe
Fatboy40 wrote:
> Drink and Oracle, thanks for the offers 
>
> I'm just really researching things at the moment. I'm moving the law
firm
> that I work at to Exchange 2003 next year from our current e-mail
system and
> could probably include a SAN for it in the budget.
>
> At the moment I trying to find out as much info as I can as I've
never setup
> a SAN before, it seems quite straight forward really as long as you
buy
> hardware that's compatible with one another.
>
> So far it either an EMC or HP SAN however we use Dell servers and it
seems
> to be impossible to find info on using HP kit with Dell servers. I
suppose
> it's just a case of buying the right hardware e.g. HP disk
array/McData
> switches/Qlogic HBA's for example.
>
> I'd like to use EMC hardware as everyone I know who uses it says it's
easily
> the best however I do have to consider the price (I could save money
going
> for a SATA SAN but there's no way I'd reccomend that solution to any
serious[vbcol=seagreen]
> business).
>
> Clive.
>
> "oracle" <oracle@isomontheweb.com> wrote in message
> news:1bNvd.11174$%p1.969149@news20.bellglobal.com... 
TekTips.[vbcol=seagreen] 
useful[vbcol=seagreen] 
discuss[vbcol=seagreen] 
specifically[vbcol=seagreen] 

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Joe,

I'm in the U.K. so I'm afraid you couldn't help. I didn't think about refurb
kit however a quick search on Google returned only a couple of people in the
UK who do this and the kit they sell is quite old EMC stuff.

"Cappy" <j.caparrotta@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1103117826.925356.156300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> You should think about using refurbished equipment for your SAN it will
> cut the cost by more than 70 percent, and still comes with all the same
> warranties as if it was brand new.  Take a look at www.bltrading.com
> and if you see anything or have any questions just send me an email
> take care
> Joe

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Hi we work with other companies in the UK so if want a price quote I
can get one for you just email me at jcaparrotta AT bltrading.com and
and we will help you out.

Fatboy40 wrote:
> Joe,
>
> I'm in the U.K. so I'm afraid you couldn't help. I didn't think about
refurb
> kit however a quick search on Google returned only a couple of people
in the[vbcol=seagreen]
> UK who do this and the kit they sell is quite old EMC stuff.
>
> "Cappy" <j.caparrotta@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1103117826.925356.156300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... 
will[vbcol=seagreen] 
same[vbcol=seagreen] 
www.bltrading.com[vbcol=seagreen] 

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"Fatboy40" <no one here, sorry> wrote in message
news:41bffeef$0$93676$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Drink and Oracle, thanks for the offers 
>
> I'm just really researching things at the moment. I'm moving the law firm
> that I work at to Exchange 2003 next year from our current e-mail system
and
> could probably include a SAN for it in the budget.
>
> At the moment I trying to find out as much info as I can as I've never
setup
> a SAN before, it seems quite straight forward really as long as you buy
> hardware that's compatible with one another.
>
> So far it either an EMC or HP SAN however we use Dell servers and it seems
> to be impossible to find info on using HP kit with Dell servers. I suppose
> it's just a case of buying the right hardware e.g. HP disk array/McData
> switches/Qlogic HBA's for example.
>
> I'd like to use EMC hardware as everyone I know who uses it says it's
easily
> the best however I do have to consider the price (I could save money going
> for a SATA SAN but there's no way I'd reccomend that solution to any
serious
> business).

ATA is tier-2 storage. That being said, and since we are on a beer budget,
we
have purchased a lot of ATA storage this last year and a half to be topped
off
with 30TB more by the end of the month.  We chew up disk storage like crazy.
They have more issues than fibre drives but since we have a good support
contract
we have had good results.

We have just purchased and EMC CX700 w/ 30TB of ATA.  We have been
testing a CX500 for the last 3 months in our environment and found it fast
and
reliable. We lost one drive early on-not bad for a SAN that lives being
beaten
up 24x7.

--
Wolf
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In article <2e6wd.322$iC4.307@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
"Wolf" <wolfdotcom@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ATA is tier-2 storage. That being said, and since we are on a beer budget,

Here we go again.

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In article <7uh3s09nmcu2j0ijpipja5bvk299v1apbb@4ax.com>,
Malcolm Weir <malc@gelt.org> wrote:

> The silly little boy doesn't understand the difference between the
> Toshiba 1.8 inch MK2004GAL drives used in an iPod (3600rpm) and the
> drives used in high-end storage (15,000rpm).

The difference is that Toshiba is like a Timex, takes a licking and
keeps on ticking. Now trying throwing one of these unnamed "high-end
storage" devices on the couch on a regular basis-sometimes while it's
spinning--and seeing how long it lasts.

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