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    dual boot xp/fedora with GRUB  
Dilbert Buntley


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12-19-04 10:48 PM

Is this the place for a GRUB question?

I have Windows XP entirely occupying hda and installed fedora core 3
on hdb, but I made the mistake of telling the install to put the grub
loader on hda.  I think I should have put it on the other drive.  So
now I've rebooted the cd into resuce and have chrooted to the
installed file system, and here below is the relevant section of
grub.conf:

hiddenmenu
title Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667)
root (hd1,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVo100 rhgb
quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img
title Other
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

What happens on bootup is that it hangs at the GRUB statement and goes
no further.  I don't understand the /dev/VolGroup00 stuff, but *think*
maybe the system misidentified the disk as a RAID volume????

I need to know how to recover here to get both operating systems back.
(The computer has no floppy.)  Failing recovery, if I have to
reinstall both OS's, how do I prevent this from happening again?
Where should the grub bootloader be located?
Thanks in advance for your response.

-dvd






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    Re: dual boot xp/fedora with GRUB  
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12-21-04 01:47 AM

frobish:
helping you there is a bit tricky.
But I have the feeling that you take the most complicated path!

Suggest you try at first the "simple stuff": get dual boot working on one
disk, when it works, get a bit fancier.

1) Make sure your BIOS uses LBA mode (to get this out of the way)
2) Partion properly your drive(see my first reply).
3) Install window, probably (but not necessarly on /dev/hda1
Make sure it works.
4) Install Fedora 3, manual install.
use GRUB, loader on the first sector of linux partition.
make sure that /,  /boot, swap aprtition are properly mounted.
IT should work .
Note that with FC3 you have to hit the keyboard to get the Grub menu, to
access other OS's (this is confusing).

If you want help, be very concise and specific on what is the problem.
I hate to give the rtfm advise, but at this phase of Fedora 3, you need to
understand what you are doing, somewhat.
----
Note: Other distros are more multi-boot (and filesystem) friendly: Suse and
Mandrake, may be others. As long as windows is installed and there is room,
they install a multi boot system linux. You may want to try them.
Hopefully at some point Fedora will also be "multi-boot (and FS) friendly".

AFC3


frobish wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Well thanks for your suggestions.  I installed a new floppy drive and a
> new BIOS in the computer that has LBA support for big hard drives over
> 1024 cylinders, reinstalled Windows XP on hd1 (reparting and
> reformatting hd1 in NTFS and FAT32), reinstalled Fedora Core 3 on hd2
> (reparting and reformatting hd2 in ext3, with three partitions for boot,
> root, swap), installed GRUB on hd2 so it wouldn't interfere with Bill
> Gates' breakfast, and now, just as I anticipated, the system boots right
> into Windows without a peep from GRUB.  Once again I tried the rescue
> system from the Fedora cd and tried editing grub.conf, but no dice.  At
> least Windows boots now, but Fedora is inaccessible.
>
> I read on the Redhat site and several other places that it is easier to
> have the entire first disk devoted to windows and the entire second disk
> devoted to Linux (leaving aside the performance issue of having /swap on
> a different physical disk).  So I followed this advice and have
> installed one OS per physical disk.
>
> Can somebody suggest a way to make the system display the GRUB menu from
> hd2 without booting directly into Windows so that I don't have to
> reinstall the damned thing again?
>
> Failing that, can somebody suggest another distro of Linux that will
> install properly in an exclusive dual-boot setup with Windows XP and
> will EITHER not wipe out the windows loader when the linux loader is on
> the first hard drive where Windows resides OR will display the choice of
>   systems to load when the linux loader is installed on the second hard
> drive where linux resides?
>
> This is incredibly frustrating.
>
>
> AnonymousFC3 wrote: 






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    Re: dual boot xp/fedora with GRUB  
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12-24-04 12:48 PM

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:41:24 -0800, AnonymousFC3 <no@email.net> wrote:


One more thing all you have to do is put your xp boot cd in. when it
first initializes itll ask you do u want to repair an installtion thru
the repair console. press r to enter. itll find your install and ask
you for your admin pword. once your in jus type in "fixmbr" w/o
quotes. itll say something about nonstandard bootloader. agree and
move on. afterwards you'll be able to get into windows. linux... im
not sure maybe another distro?
[vbcol=seagreen]
>frobish:
>  helping you there is a bit tricky.
>  But I have the feeling that you take the most complicated path!
>
>Suggest you try at first the "simple stuff": get dual boot working on one
>disk, when it works, get a bit fancier.
>
>1) Make sure your BIOS uses LBA mode (to get this out of the way)
>2) Partion properly your drive(see my first reply).
>3) Install window, probably (but not necessarly on /dev/hda1
>   Make sure it works.
>4) Install Fedora 3, manual install.
>   use GRUB, loader on the first sector of linux partition.
>   make sure that /,  /boot, swap aprtition are properly mounted.
>      IT should work .
>   Note that with FC3 you have to hit the keyboard to get the Grub menu, to
>access other OS's (this is confusing).
>
>If you want help, be very concise and specific on what is the problem.
>I hate to give the rtfm advise, but at this phase of Fedora 3, you need to
>understand what you are doing, somewhat.
>----
>Note: Other distros are more multi-boot (and filesystem) friendly: Suse and
>Mandrake, may be others. As long as windows is installed and there is room,
>they install a multi boot system linux. You may want to try them.
>Hopefully at some point Fedora will also be "multi-boot (and FS) friendly".
>
>   AFC3
>
>
>frobish wrote:
> 






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rtb1010 is offline     Re: dual boot xp/fedora with GRUB  
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01-22-05 04:09 PM

Try this:  http://www.geocities.com/epark/linu...-w2k-HOWTO.html

After installing Fedora, there's additional steps you need to complete to ge
t it to play nice with windows boot loader.




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02-20-05 02:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rtb1010 Try this: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linu...-w2k-HOWTO.html After installing Fedora, there's additional steps you need to complete to get it to play nice with windows boot loader.
Hi, I'm a newbie at linux. I've tried the above link to chainload grub. It s till hangs with the blinking cursor. My pc config is like this. I have 2 har d disks. The first hard disk (IDE) contains 2 NTFS partitions. The XP bootloader is i n the first partition. The second hard disk (SATA) contains 1 NTFS and the linux partition. GRUB i s on the second partition. I've tried looking at the grub manual and searched many places for help but to no avail. Is there anyway around this problem?




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