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    X windows client for windows  
Starr


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01-31-05 10:45 PM

Does anyone know of a xwindows client (preferably free) I can run on MS
windows?







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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Kill Bill


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01-31-05 10:45 PM

Starr wrote:
> Does anyone know of a xwindows client (preferably free) I can run on MS
> windows?

You probably meant an X *server* for Windows.

There are good ones, yet free:

Cygwin/X, check http://x.cygwin.com/ for details;
Xming, check http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming for details;
WeirdX, check http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html for details;

Those are all open-sourced software.

HTH,


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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Starr


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"Kill Bill" <xbill@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Starr wrote: 
>
> You probably meant an X *server* for Windows.
>
> There are good ones, yet free:

Cool but what I'm after is to be able to start an x session on my client
machine connected to my linux box which will let me run X on my client as if
I was doing it on the server. If such a thing exists.







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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Rincewind


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01-31-05 10:45 PM

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:25:16 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:

>
> "Kill Bill" <xbill@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:ctlrtq$fnm$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk... 
>
> Cool but what I'm after is to be able to start an x session on my client
> machine connected to my linux box which will let me run X on my client as
> if I was doing it on the server. If such a thing exists.

Yes, it's called an X *server* as Kill Bill said. It works like this:

1. Start the X server on the Windows machine
2. Use putty or similar to log onto your linux machine via ssh
3. Once logged on, type(case is important):
DISPLAY=<ip_of_your_windows_machine>:0
export DISPLAY
4. Start your X app - e.g. type:
mozilla
5. mozilla will start on your windows desktop, but will be running on your
linux box.

Alternatively, you could use a version of VNC, which will give you a
complete KDE or Gnome Desktop in a window on your windows machine. Works
quite well, but is slower than the first method IMHO.

Rinso
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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Starr


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"Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:25:16 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:
> 
as[vbcol=seagreen] 
>
> Yes, it's called an X *server* as Kill Bill said. It works like this:
>
> 1. Start the X server on the Windows machine
> 2. Use putty or similar to log onto your linux machine via ssh
> 3. Once logged on, type(case is important):
> DISPLAY=<ip_of_your_windows_machine>:0
> export DISPLAY
> 4. Start your X app - e.g. type:
> mozilla
> 5. mozilla will start on your windows desktop, but will be running on your
> linux box.
>

I tried that and I got this

[root@p3450 root]# xclock
Xlib: connection to "10.0.0.2:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Error: Can't open display: 10.0.0.2:0
[root@p3450 root]#

> Alternatively, you could use a version of VNC, which will give you a
> complete KDE or Gnome Desktop in a window on your windows machine. Works
> quite well, but is slower than the first method IMHO.

I'll give that a go too. 







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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Rincewind


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01-31-05 10:45 PM

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:48:20 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:

>
> "Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.01.31.19.42.44.582524@unseen.edu... 
> as 
> I tried that and I got this
>
> [root@p3450 root]# xclock
> Xlib: connection to "10.0.0.2:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol
> specified
>
> Error: Can't open display: 10.0.0.2:0 [root@p3450 root]#

You would get that error if there was no X server running on the windows
machine or if it had a different display number than :0, but the windows
X servers usually default to :0.

Which X server did you install on the windows machine?

Just a thought... is there a firewall running on the windows machine? If
so, you will need to allow ports 6000 - 6010 or possibly 6000 - 6064 from
your linux machine through it for X to work! Blocking these ports would
also generate an error.
 
of VNC, which will give you a[vbcol=seagreen] 
>
> I'll give that a go too. 

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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Starr


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"Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:48:20 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this: 
>
> You would get that error if there was no X server running on the windows
> machine or if it had a different display number than :0, but the windows
> X servers usually default to :0.
>
> Which X server did you install on the windows machine?
Xming
>
> Just a thought... is there a firewall running on the windows machine? If
> so, you will need to allow ports 6000 - 6010 or possibly 6000 - 6064 from
> your linux machine through it for X to work! Blocking these ports would
> also generate an error.

Indeed. I shut down the firewall on bot my windows machine and my linux box
but it made no difference. 







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    Re: X windows client for windows  
pete


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02-01-05 12:45 PM

Starr wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> "Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.01.31.23.01.41.640451@unseen.edu... 

You also need to issue the xhost command on the X server (10.0.0.2 in this
case), to allow other clients to connect. No idea how you'd do this with
Xming though.

Pete






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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Starr


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02-02-05 10:45 PM


"John Thompson" <john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org> wrote in message
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> On 2005-02-01, Starr <Starr@proxima.net> wrote:
> 
box[vbcol=seagreen] 
>
> If your linux machine uses a graphical display manager for logging in, you
> can try this:
>
> Install Cygwin, with the X.org packages for the X server. Open a Cygwin
> shell and type "X -query [linux.machine.address] -once" and you should
 get
> the graphic login widget for the linux machine. For there you can log in
> and use your linux desktop just as if you were sitting at the linux
> machine.
>

No it's a text login but its worth a thought. 
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> -John (john@os2.dhs.org)







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    Re: X windows client for windows  
Ivan Marsh


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02-02-05 10:45 PM

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:00:30 +0000, Kill Bill wrote:

> Starr wrote: 
>
> You probably meant an X *server* for Windows.
>
> There are good ones, yet free:
>
> Cygwin/X, check http://x.cygwin.com/ for details;
> Xming, check http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming for details;
> WeirdX, check http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html for details;
>
> Those are all open-sourced software.

I've been using cygwinx (happily) for quite a while and thought I'd try
xming since it's smaller.

xming's performance leaves much to be desired. It turned my scroll mouse
into a 'wait a second or two then jump up and down until the buffer is
empty" mouse. Your mileage may vary.




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