Hi,

I need to re-install one PC (W2K / NTFS) and want to make a full backup
before. I have an external Maxtor USB with FAT32 (don't want to change
this to NTFS) with enough free space.

The PC is part of a NT domain and sevaral users have their local data on
its hard drive. Running a plain copy (as admin) in Windows explorer
stops when the domain user's files are to be copied (the admin is just a
local user, not a domain user). I tried to give read access to the admin
user for all files but for some reason this stops with an error message
with some files/folders.

Tried Windows backup (NTBACKUP) then. This again stops with an error
message after 4GB as it seems there is no option to split the backup
into files smaller than 4GB (FAT32 can't handle files larger than 4GB).

At the moment, I am just ZIPing the disk to the external drive but this
is not really what I want:

- full backup of a hard drive (more than 4GB)
- data compression
- split automatically into files < 4GB (not enough space to save a full
backup and then split seperately...)
- support all NTFS features in the backup set
- the backup set should be readable / restored by the OS utility
(NTBACKUP), if possible

Does anybody know a good freeware / shareware / commercial software for
this?

Thanks

Klaus

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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:22:44 +0100, "Klaus P. Pieper" <me@privacy.net>
wrote :

>Hi,
>
>I need to re-install one PC (W2K / NTFS) and want to make a full backup=20
>before. I have an external Maxtor USB with FAT32 (don't want to change=20
>this to NTFS) with enough free space.
>
snip
>At the moment, I am just ZIPing the disk to the external drive but this=20
>is not really what I want:
>
>- full backup of a hard drive (more than 4GB)
>- data compression
>- split automatically into files < 4GB (not enough space to save a full=20
>backup and then split seperately...)
>- support all NTFS features in the backup set
>- the backup set should be readable / restored by the OS utility=20
>(NTBACKUP), if possible
>
>Does anybody know a good freeware / shareware / commercial software for=20
>this?
>
I think Dantz Retrospect, Symantec Ghost and Acronis True Image will
all do all that, except for restoring using NTBACKUP - they use their
own software for restore. =20
I like Retrospect best, but that's just my personal preference.

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Regards,
Peter Wilkins

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Yes, Retrospect should do all that.
Version was recently released.

I also use an external USB drive for backup, but I set the drive to NTFS, as
I am only using the drive for backup, I see no reason not to use NTFS.

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"Peter Wilkins" <wilkinsp_nospam@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:22:44 +0100, "Klaus P. Pieper" <me@privacy.net>
wrote :

>Hi,
>
>I need to re-install one PC (W2K / NTFS) and want to make a full backup
>before. I have an external Maxtor USB with FAT32 (don't want to change
>this to NTFS) with enough free space.
>
snip
>At the moment, I am just ZIPing the disk to the external drive but this
>is not really what I want:
>
>- full backup of a hard drive (more than 4GB)
>- data compression
>- split automatically into files < 4GB (not enough space to save a full
>backup and then split seperately...)
>- support all NTFS features in the backup set
>- the backup set should be readable / restored by the OS utility
>(NTBACKUP), if possible
>
>Does anybody know a good freeware / shareware / commercial software for
>this?
>
I think Dantz Retrospect, Symantec Ghost and Acronis True Image will
all do all that, except for restoring using NTBACKUP - they use their
own software for restore.
I like Retrospect best, but that's just my personal preference.

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Peter Wilkins

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Howard Kaikow schrieb:
> Yes, Retrospect should do all that.
> Version was recently released.
>
> I also use an external USB drive for backup, but I set the drive to NTFS, 
as
> I am only using the drive for backup, I see no reason not to use NTFS.

Thanks for the answers,

I will study those packages. This particular drive is also used in
combination with a linux machine (Linux writing NTFS is still called
"exprimental"). I will hence stay with FAT32, if possible.

Klaus

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Klaus P. Pieper wrote:
>
> I will study those packages. This particular drive is also used in
> combination with a linux machine (Linux writing NTFS is still called
> "exprimental").

NTFS support isn't experimental however write support is indeed not
fully implemented yet (non-existent code can't cause any damage). For
example running Linux read-write from a loopback mounted NTFS file,
NTFS cloning (backup/restore), NTFS resizing is stable for over two
years and quite many distributions and companies use them. Some names
are Mandrake, Novell, SUSE, IBM, Debian, Knoppix, etc.
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html

If you want full backups then ntfsclone could do it fine and quite fast.

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In article <1108913069.059103.42920@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<szcs@abuse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Klaus P. Pieper wrote: 
>
>NTFS support isn't experimental however write support is indeed not
>fully implemented yet (non-existent code can't cause any damage). For
>example running Linux read-write from a loopback mounted NTFS file,
>NTFS cloning (backup/restore), NTFS resizing is stable for over two
>years and quite many distributions and companies use them. Some names
>are Mandrake, Novell, SUSE, IBM, Debian, Knoppix, etc.
>http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html
>
>If you want full backups then ntfsclone could do it fine and quite fast.
>


NTFS R/O is rock solid. Writing to NTFS is "experimantal".

Using Linux to backup a partition as an image doesn't require file
system support. I know people that have been using dd to backup up
NTFS from Linux for years.
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"Klaus P. Pieper" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<37oiblF5e69mcU1@individual.net>...

> Hi,
>
> I need to re-install one PC (W2K / NTFS) and want to make a full backup
> before. I have an external Maxtor USB with FAT32 (don't want to change
> this to NTFS) with enough free space.
>
> The PC is part of a NT domain and sevaral users have their local data on
>   its hard drive. Running a plain copy (as admin) in Windows explorer
> stops when the domain user's files are to be copied (the admin is just a
> local user, not a domain user). I tried to give read access to the admin
> user for all files but for some reason this stops with an error message
> with some files/folders.
>
> Tried Windows backup (NTBACKUP) then. This again stops with an error
> message after 4GB as it seems there is no option to split the backup
> into files smaller than 4GB (FAT32 can't handle files larger than 4GB).
>
> At the moment, I am just ZIPing the disk to the external drive but this
> is not really what I want:
>
> - full backup of a hard drive (more than 4GB)
> - data compression
> - split automatically into files < 4GB (not enough space to save a full
> backup and then split seperately...)
> - support all NTFS features in the backup set
> - the backup set should be readable / restored by the OS utility
> (NTBACKUP), if possible
>
> Does anybody know a good freeware / shareware / commercial software for
> this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Klaus

Please visit http://www.device-image.de I think this free software can
do exactly what you want.

Regards,
Jurij

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jurij@device-image.de schrieb:
>
>
> Please visit http://www.device-image.de I think this free software can
> do exactly what you want.

Probably not in this particular case as it appears that unzsplit will
restore the entire partition, not file by file. But I didn't know this
software, will certainly use it in other cases. Thanks for the link.

Klaus

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